My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Help me out with this one, guys. I was talking with my girlfriend tonight about buying a 9mm, and she threw several scenarios at me that I was able to respond to, but then she asked me to consider carrying a Taser instead of a gun. OK, I told her, I'd think about it and do some research (which is why I'm asking you guys :D), but from what little I know about Tasers...well, help me out with this. Give me both the pro and con of owning a Taser instead of a gun and help me figure out how to answer her objections to a gun.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Never bring a knife to a gun fight

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

taser is a one shot device. In a "heated situation" you might miss and then you have nothing left to defend your beautiful girlfriend with. what would happen then do you think? The other thing is the range of the taser. I know a hand gun is not long range but it is longer range than a taser.

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If your are going to shoot somebody you need to do it right the first time:s1:

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My opinion is a Taser is a device to gain compliance. Consider how Law Enforcement use a Taser. If you have watched COPS you know the police use a Taser on someone who is resisting arrest. They don't want to wrestle with the person, so he gets Tasered. Their life is not immediatly in danger. If a police officer has any doubt about his life being in danger the firearm is brought out. Also, consider if you had to stop two or more threats to you or your loved one's life. It would be more difficult to stop with a Taser than a firearm.

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2 things Distance and intimidation


DISTANCE IS YOUR FRIEND Most tazers have to be applied in close proximty to work.... the closer you are to a assailant the more can go wrong... FATALLY WRONG.

Intimidation........whip out a tazer an attacker might still be brazen .whip out a Glock 26 they realize instantly they may not be going home tonight.


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let's say two guys ( with knives ) have you backed into a corner

1 - and you pull out your taser
one macho guy laughs, " i always wanted to get tased, i think i can take it "
and steps forward to get tased while his buddy rushes you

2 - and you pull out your gun
which macho guy says, " i always wanted to get shot at point blank range "

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heheheehehh..good one.

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Forget about the taser a TA said you want distance. I personally think more people should get shot guns. Shotguns and rifles before hand guns, but all three are needed at minimum. Gotta love a shot gun. Everyone knows you're coming to win. Especially if you get a tube extension for more rounds.

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+1 on the long guns



Rules for a Gunfight

Anonymous

1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap - life is expensive.

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the
gun. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket."

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
24. Do not attend a gun fight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".

25. You can't miss fast enough to win.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

google "taser proof clothing"

=guns, guns, and more guns

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What he said! +100

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This is all I have to say....

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Get BOTH.

If the threat is from a drunk relative/neighbor, use the taser. If the bad guy is a stranger, grab the 9mm (and then, only if the shotgun is out of reach).

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If Tasers work so great, then why do soldiers and police still need guns?

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Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

the best reason for not using a taser is because it's non-lethal. You basically give him a 2nd chance at raping you and your wife. That's raping you and your wife. It's happened before, in my little hometown. Raped wife, raped the dude, and made the dude have sex with his wife for the pleasure of it. Still want a taser? Why would you want to use something non lethal on someone who is coming to rape you and your wife. Put your feet down on this one. Sometimes you have to. When the thin veneer of civilization is
removed, we'll see that Hobbes was right: "Short, Nasty, and Brutish". Better to be prepared. Sorry for the rant, but that guy was a friend of mine and he's never been the same after the incident, but he and his wife are closer than any couple I've ever seen. I guess something good came out of it. Keep it real, get a shotgun, with slugs and #00, get training. I'm currently doing the same now. loving it!

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

The Taser is an option, not a mainstay personal defense weapon, for all the reasons already stated here.

Taser, bottom line:

1) Only one shot
2) Taser-proof clothing
3) Distance

People that fear guns need to get over it. A gun is a tool, the most effective tool and equalizer for personal defense. Remove the fear by learning how to use it. Buy, borrow, or rent a pistol, get yourselves to a basic handgun safety course, and continue practicing after that. It's very empowering. And learn some hand-to-hand combat skills while you're at it. The more you know how to protect yourselves, the better.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Buy her a taser......you the gun.....thats how it is in my house all the women carry Taser c2s .......


What was our thought processes...

In my mind.....if you pull a gun shoot to kill dont create a victom to retaliate on you by just wounding

advantages of a taser are
it can be carried pretty much anywhere anytime
provides a non-leathal option for hesitant people
availible to control situations that dont require lethal force

Gun
allows you distance
allows you terminal force
allows you to engage multiple targets
higher intimidation factor



we have multiple C2 tasers and Multiple guns, in general any home invasion can be met with deadly force from any room at any time, as a family we carry Tasers outside the home where it is illegal to conceal carry

also in our home everyone is capable of useing a firearm

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Didn't I read an article on GIM about some tweaker ripping the probes out? I think I would pass on that taser. Besides, the Founders always did promote a speedy trial. :)

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Ask your wife ONE question.

Which one would SHE rather be shot with? Tell her to do the research and get back with you in a couple of days.

She will say 'Taser, of course'.

Then ask her WHY should would rather be shot with a taser. You will have HER answer her own question.

Problem resolved.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

I like that libe of thinking .............I have to practice that more.....it will end a boat load of arguments.


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Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Woah! Let me stop you right there. You talked to your girlfriend about a purchase you wanted to make?

Dude, with respect, grow a pair. I mean, it's not like it's her money or anything. If she doesn't like your purchase, tell her she can split. And then growl. Chicks dig that.

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OSAKA,
WHOA DUDE!

You are 180 degrees off.

What you WANT to do is to DISCUSS this fully. Better yet, make it SEEM like it's your wife's idea. Then get HER to give YOU the money.

That's how I do ALL my purchases.

My wife still works and I'm retired. SHE pays for everything I want.

I just have to give her a reason WHY it's a good purchase.

Of course, if you are consistently blowing your wad on geegaws that aren't worth crap....

Not much anyone can do for you.

Oh, we've been together 28+ years. So that's years and years of learning HOW to work with a woman.

Learn by someone elses mistakes. Or learn by YOU MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES.

Your choice.

OH, and CHICKS DIG SCARS. Especially if SHE gave them to you. GROWL!!!

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Guns makes you look cooler and all your friends will envy you for having one.

Simple as that.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

IIRC, a Taser offers two shots per reload.

A pistol offers many more.

:emotions16:

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LOL.

My Lord! I humbly kneel before you. Your wisdom doth surpass my own.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Osaka,
Nah, just been with the same woman a long time. She's got me trained well.

But there ARE trade offs. We do understand one another very well.

My wife is the one who had me 'fill in the holes' in our armory after watching the aftermath of Katrina.

Then she coughed up all the money I asked for.

God I love a woman who likes to go shooting.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Because a dead man cant sue you and when the cops come and ask questions the only side of the story will be you

rs that is why

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

+1111111111111

got me a new glock 30 today and 10 Peace and Morgan at $15 per so am a happy camper.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Police (offduty) carry guns for self defence, not tasers.
Even on duty, they carry guns for self defence.
Tasers obviously can't be used in as many situations, and,
when it is aprioprate to use, they have a higher failure rate rate than guns, but, I don't have the numbers.
On occaision, a taser would be better than a gun so carry both, if you really want a taser.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

I personally think tasers are a joke from a self-defense perspective. Multiple assailants at the same time is the first big reason. Criminals love to travel in small groups.

Regarding carrying both -- did you read about the cop recently who meant to zap some kid with his taser, but accidentally drew his pistol and shot the kid instead? Multiple weapons will only introduce confusion and mistakes when you're under stress.

As I've said before, even if you carry a pistol (or a taser), you should also carry a knife. Very important! People who are shot don't usually fall instantly like they do on TV. If they get close or if you run out of ammo, you need a backup plan.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Do exactly that... and then ask her if she feels like testing her theory out.:bear_whistle: Double growllll!!!!
Case closed.:bear_rolleyes:
Not saying tasers don't have functionality, but they ain't firearms. Period. Explain this to her.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

This is very true. A taser gives you one shot (maybe 2 if one of the above posters is correct). When shooting an assailant, the purpose is not to KILL or WOUND, but rather to STOP. You want the assailant to STOP whatever he/she is doing, and to stop IMMEDIATELY. One should continue shooting until either he/she stops, or until your mag is empty, whichever comes first. Some crazed lunatic high on drugs may not stop after getting tasered.

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Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

My bet is that she wants to be able to use it on you.:signs14:

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

I say get it.

If something happens you dang well know she will be looking to you to get the two of you out of the situation.

E-A

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

You guys - always doing things the hard way........*sigh*

Just tell them you have HIV & AIDS and spit on them!!!!!

No charge for that one.........

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

When used properly, a Taser leaves a witness to sue you.
When used properly, a handgun does not.

Sidenote: A revolver does not even leave brass ("evidence") everywhere.

Sidenote: Lasersights are demoralizing to someone attcking you.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Twisted, You forgot the Navy's rules for a gunfight:
1. Go to sea.
2. Send in planes, missiles, etc. and of course the Marines.
3. Drink coffee.
Problem solved!

Nickelless, I've been married for 37 years, if I decide to buy something, especially like another firearm, I don't ask. This was something I had to learn early, especially "DON'T ASK". Here's why, "It's easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission!" That being said, first try to get some proper training in the use of handguns, say a CCW class.

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My notes on this conversation:

A) The OP said girlfriend, not wife. Discuss significant purchases and loaded firearms in the house with your wife. Girlfriends are just that, friends with different parts between their legs. Do you okay your purchases with your guy friends? Didn't think so.

B) How does one practice taser use? I cannot imagine taser practice being anywhere near as fruitful as gun practice. How many different tasers are made for a variety of situations and personal tastes? Now, how about the variety in guns? In an extreme situation requiring to hunt and kill food which weapon would you rather be trying to use to get the job done? How much input can you get from other people on taser use, warnings or explanations? I know that the information and knowledge base on guns is endless. In 50 years do you want to pass down to your children a well-kept, functional and historical firearm or a taser?

C) I like the list about how to parlay a gunfight. I especially like the rules concerning keeping your eyes on hands and having a plan to kill everyone you know. I disagree about the courteous but not friendly stance. Maybe if you're an undercover government operative or something but the rest of us NEED friends.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

That says it all. End of story. The rest is window dressing.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Tasers aren't effective on all individuals. I saw a drugged up piece of trash pull the taser barbs out of his chest and contiue to attack the police (on TV ofcourse). But a 9mm isn't all that effective either. Buy a 40, 45 or 357.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

Because you want to have the BEST tool available to you in case you and your Girlfriends life are on the line. A tazer isn't even 2nd best.

What happens if there is more than one person robbing or harassing you? A 1 shot tazer don't work too well on 2-3 people. But if you pull out a gun and shoot the one of those 2-3 people that are armed, usually the other people run away pretty quickly. And if they don't, their Darwin award comes in the form of you pulling the trigger again.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

As other people have pointed out, tasers are not the weapon to use when facing armed assailants. Police will only use their taser when trying to control unarmed people; if the person has a club, a knife or a gun, an officer will draw his gun instead.

The effectiveness of the taser depends mostly on probe placement. When the two probes make contact, a circuit is completed and the muscle groups between them are temporarily disabled. The best situation is to have the probes placed as far apart as possible on the target's body. Contact high and low on the torso is usually enough to cause the target to lock up, lose their balance and fall. If the two probes land close together, then fewer muscles are affected, and your target may be able to dislodge the probes and recover mobility. The taser cartridges are designed to have one probe fire at the point of aim, and the second fire at a slight downward angle. If you are too close to your target, the probes will not have enough time to spread properly, and the taser will be ineffective.

One more thing to remember is that the taser models sold to ordinary people are not the same weapons sold to law enforcement. Police cartridges have a 35ft range, and citizen cartridges have only 15ft.

Re: My girlfriend's question: Honey, why not carry a Taser instead of a gun?
 

As a multiple Taser and a Multiple Gun owner

Facts and thoughts about tasers specificly a c2

15ft range
the hand unit works as a stunner also so you can engage multiple targets
they have a Light and a Laser sight built in
a taser can be conceled carryed in Many more places legally than a handgun IE schools...government buildings...churches....etc
most women would not hesitate to use a taser...many women would hesitate to use deadly force (gun)
we can have tasers laying around the house in open view and access without worrying about visitors and children killing themselves
the c2 taser is designed to penetrate 2" of clothing


I/We own both, and are prepared to use both, and understand the advantages of both,

the women in my family carry a taser all the time ...and carry a .357/.38special revolver when they can carry legally, we carry concealed hammer revolvers which allows the weapon to be fired while still in a handbag without the hammer or the slide(auto) getting jammed by other things in the handbag, we also use the revolver due to in a stress situation it is basicly a grab and pull the trigger kind of gun-not requireing unlocking a safty or pulling a slide or any other action that might be a problem during a high stress situation.

If i hip/holser carry i carry a walther p99 9mm with hollowpoints +p+ with 2-15 rd clips

primary quick notice home protection is 12ga-with 8+1 00buck in 2-3/4 with many other options with longer notice

In all cases the Taser is a option for us since we have several around the house quick and easy to grab, as such its easy to remember to take one with you when you go places just like car keys etc.

Just some thoughts